Monday, October 24, 2005
'Saw II' delivers the Twisted goods in gory style
Jigsaw, the serial killer with a particularly imaginative bent, is back in this sequel to last year's sleeper horror hit. Attempting to resurrect the sort of gory, hard-core horror film that has been eclipsed in recent years by the plethora of tamer, PG-13 releases, Lions Gate and the all too aptly named Twisted Pictures clearly have a new franchise on their hands. Halloween grosses should be monstrous, with plenty of video business to follow. The killer himself takes a far more prominent role in this edition, and as played by the superb Tobin Bell he's quite a memorable creation. Soft-voiced and physically frail because of the cancer ravaging his body, the diabolical Jigsaw is determined to make people appreciate their lives, mainly by dispatching them in the most ingenious of ways.The first victim, bloodily disposed of even before the opening credits roll, tries unsuccessfully to gouge out his own eye in order to retrieve a key that has been surgically implanted.
Sunday, October 23, 2005
New Shoutbox!
Please leave a comment or chat on it or ask questions about SAW or do anything, just use it!
How Scary Is 'Saw II'? Check Out An Exclusive MTV Six-Minute Clip
YOU MUST USE INTERNET EXPLORER TO GET THE CLIP
The blanket of secrecy surrounding "Saw II" has been, up to this point, as impenetrable as any death-dealing, device-laden room ever designed by the series' Jigsaw Killer.
Five different endings were shot in order to confuse any production staff who might let the truth slip; the film's actors have operated under strict orders to reveal nothing more than the bare minimum; advance screenings (typically scheduled weeks in advance to create media buzz) only recently began.
(Click here for a six-minute sneak peek of "Saw II" on MTV Overdrive.)
The select few permitted entry into one of the showings also received a letter from the filmmakers asking for their "cooperation." "Like its predecessor," the note from writer/director Darren Lynn Bousman and co-writer Leigh Whannell insists, " 'Saw II' is a suspense thriller whose success with audiences relies heavily on surprises and unexpected twists of plot."
Such extreme measures should help explain the significance of a rare advance interview with the film's star, Donnie Wahlberg. It also gives you an idea, however, of the gory, demented, unapologetic terror that he must avoid revealing with as much precision and care as a man attempting to amputate his own foot.
"Yeah, it's bloodier," the actor chuckled. "It has all the ingredients of the first one. It's easy for people to see the trailer and say, 'OK, there were two people in the house in the first movie, and eight people in the house in the second movie. Wow, big deal.' But there really is so much more to it than that; it's just so delicate that we don't want to tell anybody anything."
He is allowed, however, to discuss the film's opening sequence, a startlingly violent scene that snaps the viewer right back into the horrified trance that the first film cast so well. "There's this fiendish flytrap kind of device, sort of similar to the bear trap thing that Shawnee Smith wore in the first movie; it's just sick. And it's not even so much the fiendish flytrap device, so much as where the key is. This guy can get out if he can get to the key, but what he has to do to get to that key is just not good. It's just not good.
"The key is hidden somewhere in his body and he's got to find it," Wahlberg grimaced. "And that's all I'm gonna say about that."
"Saw II" takes place a few months after the developments of the first film. "I pick up where Danny Glover left off, but the difference is that I'm very reluctant to get involved in this case," Wahlberg revealed about his character, a world-weary police detective named Eric Mathews. "I'm not really the most ethical person in the world, and I'm not really in good spirits when this case finds me. Ultimately, I have to come along. I get pulled in."
"Danny Glover was desperate to capture Jigsaw because he wanted to," the 36-year-old star observed. "I'm desperate to capture Jigsaw because I have to."
Suffice it to say that Jigsaw has big plans for Detective Mathews, his supposedly invincible SWAT team and those eight random people pacing around nervously in that dingy, booby-trapped house. "Oh yes, there will be blood," the killer boasts near the beginning of the film, and viewers are bound to often be reminded of the two fingers from the movie's poster as they watch most of the movie between two of their own.
"It's funny," Wahlberg said. "They played one scene last night at this preview party we did. Everyone was doing that, watching through their fingers."
Although the actor might typically get typecast as a tough guy, Wahlberg admitted that he watched the first "Saw" the same way as so many others — in an uncomfortable state of awe. "I don't want to overstate the value of a horror movie, but in many ways the film was sort of groundbreaking. A couple of kids just kind of came up with this idea, and pretty much made it for no money. ... The kids who love [the 'Saw' movies] are the kids who are gonna be making digital films in their garage, editing on the computer in their house. This movie is probably an inspiration for them — but hopefully not to go out and slash people up."
The series has become such a phenomenon that fans were constantly approaching Wahlberg during filming, asking which of the "Saw" trademarks would return. Would Jigsaw still taunt his victims with handheld tape recorders? Would the bathroom make a cameo appearance in the sequel? And, perhaps most importantly: Would the driving scenes still look ridiculously low-budget?
"I did some fake driving," Wahlberg laughed. "It's still fake as hell; some dude was shaking the van. It was pretty funny."
So when you see Wahlberg and his shaky van, feel free to laugh out loud. Because, during the rest of "Saw II," you're bound to find yourself at the other end of the emotional spectrum.
"I don't know, man. It's just a little warped," Wahlberg shrugged, summing up his take on the film's demented, top-secret twists and turns. "You just gotta watch and find out."
Check out everything we've got on "Saw II."
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Shameless Plugs...
There has not been alot of SAW news so I'm going to let you all know about a few services/places/communitys where I get my SAW news and/or just chat.
Panic Attic
Great horror fan site community, Join on in! This is a great place just to talk about your favorite horror movies or just other things. (Summed up: Become a Member, Have Fun)
House of Jigsaw Fourms
the most official fourms for SAW information, if there is SAW news its usally here first
SawMovie dot CA
Ive marked this down as the best canadian site ever lol all about SAW, very awesome!
Saturday, October 22, 2005
Directors Commentary on SAW 2 site
Friday, October 21, 2005
2 new monitors on/ New Clip
check it out!
PLUS a new addison clip in CLIPS section, contains some spoilers!!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday, October 20, 2005
Shawnee SMith Reminder/ Beverely Michelle Moved

Although I’m sure some of you sick screws would like that, wouldn't ya?
The legal ramifications would be a tad bothersome, and we’d like to avoid that. What we are going to do, however, is host another wave of live chats with the sick minds behind the film and those who are unwillingly exposed to Jigsaw's latest scheme. Not familiar with the world of Saw and all this “Jigsaw” jive talkin' I'm doing? Here's a synopsis of the latest chapter, directed by Darren Lynn Bousman, to bring you up-to-speed: "Jigsaw is back. The brilliant, disturbed mastermind who wreaked havoc on his victims in last year's SAW is back for another round of horrifying life-or-death games. When a new murder victim is discovered with all the signs of Jigsaw's hand, Detective Eric Mathews (Donnie Wahlberg) begins a full investigation and apprehends Jigsaw with little effort. But for Jigsaw, getting caught is just another part of his nefarious plan. Eight more of his victims are already fighting for their lives - and now it's time for Mathews to join the game.".
Here's a look at the two stars we have visiting us next!

Click here to enter the chat room!
We like our chats to begin in a timely fashion, so if you plan on participating, we suggest you get in early. Now, here's what the rest of the month looks like. Keep in mind that many of the actors involved are pretty damn busy these days. Last minute changes should not come as a surprise.
October 26th: Beverly Mitchell (NEW DATE! PLEASE NOTE!)
October 27th: Donnie Wahlberg
November 3rd: Tobin Bell
All chats will begin at the same time: 9pm Eastern/6pm Pacific unless any adjustments are made. Click HERE to read the transcript of our first chat with Bousman and Whannell!
And don't forget to get your hands dirty at the Saw II official site here!
Another SAW 2 Review (Spoiler Free!)
As I said in another forum, I have a film director friend who has many connections in Hollywood/LA, and somehow (he will not say how) he obtained an advance copy. So, yes, I have seen it. The following is not really a review, and it's far from a spoiler, but I think you may wish to read.
Plot : Like Jigsaw, thought out, but still cryptical. Better than the first movie, as there is a lot more to say, incl. the story of Jigsaw himself, along of what's up with Gordon and Adam, and well everyone else. The pieces fall much better together than Saw I.
Characters : You can't help to feel for them. They are quite thought out. Better than most movies of the genre where they are just to be killed. Amanda is very good, and I was quite surprised by Johan and Xaiver too. Obe was excellent If you count Billy as a character (I do), then you will love it. He is VERY VERY GOOD in this, and his lines if anything gotten even better.
Film Style : Very dark, darker than even "Saw I" Most everything seems to be under a 40 watt bulb. Lots of shadows and grit. Very good job done here. The film has a hopeless feel, and this style is great for it. The sets are awesome. Not many a picture shows gloom so well. From the dirt to rust, everything wetches a decay emotion. The panic scenes are jarring, moving quickly (think Razor Wire scene in "Saw I") and quite intense. The sets are
Music : Not a fan of this type of most this music. However, it was used quite well, and fit what was on screen really well. Couster, of course, is awesome. I wish he did the whole thing personally. Been a much more effective in the scare dept. IMHO if this was the case.
Gore : I am amazed this got an "R"! Living proof that if you have a success in something (this case, Saw I), you can get away with a lot more because Hollywood will make is money. Trust me, you will not be dispointed. This is gory movie I've seen since "High Tension", but not like blood blood blood, but more like pain pain pain.. insane gore instead of the gallon tubs. It reeks of even something more evil.. If Fuici was still around he probably would call this movie and masterpiece and make Wan/Leigh and co. to make his next movie!

Twist : What do you mean by twist? This movie has several. Enough to make you go "How f*cked up?" for the whole movie. I will not allow myself to tell you what's up... but some of you were right about things, and some of you were wrong (don't worry, it's all good) but both sides will be never knowing until the end.... then bang, another twist at the end. Saw III possible? Sure!
All in all, I found it much better than "Saw I' and I loved "Saw I".. this is great horror film making.. eat your dang heart out Wes, Tobe and John.. you were the past.. this is the future! Torch is offically passed from Fuici to Wan. EXCELLENT WORK DARREN!! CONGRATS ON YOUR FIRST FILM! Your check is in the mail and more offers will be comin'!
Anyhoo, hope this helps. Any questions, just ask... except for spoilers, I am not going to go there because my lips are zipped on that!
-W420
Only thing he says BAD about is the music, I enjoy it ! (from what ive heard from the soundtrack)
Wednesday, October 19, 2005
New Clip! sorta.....
First SAW 2 Review!
I had no idea what to expect when I arrived at Lion’s Gate Films’ corporate headquarters for a test screening of “Saw 2”. I had helped man the booth for the horror comedy success “The Janitor” at the recent Necrocomicon convention, where Lion’s Gate had spread “Saw 2” merchandise everywhere. We heard from the guys that put on the convention earlier today and they told my friend and I they had put us on the guest list for the screening.
I had enjoyed the first film, but hadn’t really been a hardcore fan of it, so I was skeptical from the get-go when it came to the sequel. The well made sequel. The very well made, very bloody, sadistically violent sequel, in fact. I can’t think of any other possible way they could have made this movie, nothing to change, and nothing to omit.
That is just a matter of opinion of course, there are still some cringe-worthy acting moments, but I think the cringe-worthy and very creative violence they squeezed into the film more than make up for it. I would give anything to be able to spoil the entire movie in this review, it’s one of those you just can’t help but talk way too much about, so I’ll hold back and try to keep this short and spoiler-free.
The look of the film is basically what you’d expect from a “Saw” sequel, it looks just like the first. However, I thought this was a very good thing, the new locations, characters, and deaths with the instantly classic “Saw” look we’ve come to know was a very cool experience.
I mentioned that the acting wasn’t the greatest in some parts, but that’s mostly towards the beginning, and I easily became entranced by the characters once the mayhem began. By the way, the mayhem begins very early in the film, and never really lets up. It seemed to me that the movie was running at a tortuous breakneck speed most of the time. There is a lot of the “Saw” rapid-fire montages, and violent quick cutting during the more strenuous moments. In spite of this, the film seems to relish in leaving the violence on screen a bit more than expected, numerous times I’d expect it to cut away from something, but I’d be surprised by even more being shown. Especially the startling last death of the film, it was glorious.
The acting was sometimes surprisingly good, the reactions and pain of the actors was frighteningly real, but the best performance has to go to Tobin Bell as the diseased Jigsaw killer. Donnie Wahlberg does a decent job as the hardened police officer, his stress breakdown goes over very convincingly, and Shawnee Smith does a great job with her Amanda character from the first “Saw”. She is involved in an extremely intense scene involving some syringes (I won’t say how many) that is sure to have lots of moviegoers squirming in their seats.
So, wrapping this up, the movie starts quickly (with the venus fly trap mask most people have at least seen pictures of) and ends even quicker, with way more carnage than expected crammed in the middle. What's more, look forward to another incredible twist ending, actually a few twists, that forced me to start laughing out loud in the screening room. Laughing in a good way though, the same reaction you had when Jigsaw stood up and walked out in the end of the first film. This could easily be even more intense than that, because the twists just don’t stop coming. The filmmakers also do an excellent job of wrapping up any “loose ends” left over from the first film. I’ll stop at that, before I am too tempted to spoil everything.
BackOfYourMind Dot Net Up and running
Characters Section on SAW 2 dot com is UP
SAW uncut Review
- Movie - 9/10
- Extras - 10/10
- Overall - 8/10
I wish I could review more but the thing is this is my first time reviewing, expect to see a better, more into it review of SAW 2. This DVD overall would get a 8/10 just because the fact that it was out so late but besides that its a definite pick-up, even if you are not a fan, it was cheaper then the first SAW DVD I got which is really great (Places I Recommend: Best Buy, Target)
Tuesday, October 18, 2005
More INFO ON SAW 3
I’m tired. Everything hurts. I’ve gained 10 pounds. I have 93,000 frequent flyer miles. I’ve produced 3 movies in 7 months. It’s over! This is my last flight on Air Canada 793 from Toronto to Los Angeles.
It’s been a while since the last of my SAW II blogs (note that it’s not “2”, it’s “II” per the official Lions Gate decree) disgraced the virtual pages of JoBlo.com and Arrowinthehead.com, so I thought I’d take a few minutes to update you all.
I left Toronto tonight just as we were finishing up the sound mix on SAW II. Bousman has been bouncing off the walls of the mix stage, yelling at anyone who would listen that “my man Charlie Clouser busted out his ‘A’ game on this score!” And indeed, Clouser has done it again and given the film its signature raw, industrial, yet melodic vibe. The one thing I noticed about this score versus the original SAW is that there seems to be more guitar in this one than in the first.
Also, he’s created a couple of new themes to go along with the ones already familiar to the SAW army out there. There is a soundtrack album coming out just before the October 28th release of the film, but other than end title songs by Mudvayne and Queens of the Stone Age, the rest of the source music in the film is blended almost organically into the score, so you’ll have to be listening carefully to hear Marilyn Manson, The Used and Puscifer (featuring Maynard from Tool), among others.
After spending close to five months in Toronto – a GREAT city to work in, by the way, and a great city to party in, especially in the summer months – it was only fitting that Darren Bousman and I leave our good neighbors to the north in style. In typical fashion, what started out as a promising night, quickly became what we now call –THE STRANGEST NIGHT EVER. Here’s a brief recap.
For several days, my man Bousman, who now has a modicum of game with the ladies as a result of his 6 month stay in Toronto under the expert tutelage of myself and my partners Oren Koules and Mark Burg, had been calling me multiple times an hour talking about some party he got us invited to for something called “The Suicide Girls.”
For those of you unaware of what the Suicide Girls are, it’s a loosely-knit group of about 800 tattooed, pierced rocker and punk chicks who do erotic photo sets on a website (see it here) and travel around the U.S. and Canada doing burlesque shows and creating mayhem. Personally, I prefer my dirty girls to be…well….cleaner… but Bousman has a real fetish for the nasty rocker type.
My plan for the night was simple – act as Bousman’s pimp, draw attention to the fact that he directed the sequel to SAW to give him some cred, and then stay close by in case he started saying anything stupid or inappropriate.
Bousman had been building this party up in his mind for days and convinced himself he was going to meet “the future ex Mrs, Bousman” at this event. We brought along our sound-effects editor Mark, who is quite possibly the darkest, dirtiest most subversive human I’ve ever met, knowing he, too, would enjoy a night of trying to pick-up filthy rocker whores.
So it was a sad sad day when we walked into the club and discovered a half-filled room, about five bottom-of-the-barrel Suicide Girls and a sad aneroxic-looking waitress passing around shots of Jagermeister. The only attractive girl in the place, who we quickly learned was a lesbian, even stated as she watched three skanks dancing poorly on the makeshift stage, “this shit is enough to make me hetero again.”
I should have heeded the warning signs and called it a night when Bousman spent about 30 minutes chatting up a punked-out girl sitting on a bar stool before he realized SHE HAD NO ARMS AND LEGS! (I swear on my children this is true) But no, I was a man on a mission. Bousman wanted a dirty girl, Bousman was going to get a dirty girl.
Needless to say, I immediately went into back-up mode. Unfortunately, my back-up plan was on a girls-only, “no cock allowed” night, so I began to get agitated. How could we salvage this night? I did what any man would do – suggested we go to a nearby strip club. If we couldn’t meet dirty girls, we could at least pay dirty girls to be nice to us!
We walked three or four blocks in the rain to one of the high-end strip clubs in town. After the nastiness of the Suicide Girls party, we needed to see some quality and even on a rainy Tuesday night, there was no shortage of ladies willing to relieve me of as many $20’s as possible. I smoothly slipped the host/security dude a $20 and told him to put us in a private room and send over three of the finest ladies he had.
Things quickly went from bad to worse. After buying several rounds of drinks, the girl dancing for me bailed when one of her regulars walked in. The girl Darren had on his lap was nice enough to go out into the club and find me a replacement. While Annie, the replacement, was cute as could be, within moments she had cut her knee on a small shard of glass embedded in the booth, and moments later began telling me about a dream she had the night before wherein she apparently grew a second asshole. Okkkkaaayyyy……
By now it was clear that the stars just weren’t lined up right, but Bousman was in lapdance heaven and who was I to deny him pleasure? He’d busted his ass for me and made one hell of a movie. I owed him something. Just then the door to the room opened and in walked a woman -- at least we thought it was a woman -- who we now refer to as “Thor.” Thor had the deepest voice I’ve ever heard on a woman and was obviously drunk as hell.
She pointed at me and said “You need me to dance for you.” At this point she ran across the room, shoved Annie out of the way leaped into the air and slammed her knees down on my thighs as hard as she could. Bousman and Mark then proceeded to watch in horror as Thor repeated this slamming move over and over for the duration of the song, then asked if I wanted another dance!
I screamed in horror and ran from the room. A guy has got to know when to wave the white flag. Clearly, it was a signal that it was time to go home and start thinking about ideas for SAW 3 … or should I say “III.” Yeah, that’s right. I said it. SAW III.
Are you guys ready for a SAW 3? the last two blog posts have been about it!"Oh Yes, there will be MORE blood!"
:)
SAW 3 Information!
Lions Gate Films held an exclusive screening of this month's spotlight genre release, Saw II, and Dread Central was there ready to be bathed in all the crimson glory it had to offer.
Following Darren Bousman's auspicious feature film debut, the press had a chance to chat with co-writer Leigh Whannell, Jigsaw himself Tobin Bell and the film's producers. A full write-up is to come, but in the meantime, I thought I'd pull a few quotes of interest that came up when I asked the inevitable - if Saw II strikes it big at the box office, are they ready to stretch Jigsaw's carnage into a third entry?
"Have we been working on stories for 'Saw III'?" replies producer (and Twisted Pictures') Mark Burg. "We kind of deliberately left unanswered questions in 'Saw II' just like in the 'Saw'." Producer Greg Hoffman continues, "Have we been thinking about it? Of course. And yes, it depends on how 'Saw II' does."
"We're still giving birth to ['Saw II']," Whannell chimes in with a laugh. "It's the George Lucas answer, it was always meant to be a trilogy."
